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(L-R) Scott Montoya, Matt Taylor, Brooks Neilsen, Anthony Perry, Kyle Straka |
Down to the Newport peninsula, just
off of 56th St., I have no trouble finding a parking spot now that
the crowds are gone and there are mere days left in the summertime season. Lead singer of local band the Growlers,
Brooks Neilsen, is just about to join drummer, Scott Montoya, in the water for
a quick session. They only have three
days to mellow out in between tours, but amidst the constant list of
band-related things to take care of, the boys detach from a decent swell to
tell me about their newest full-length release, Hung at Heart.
How was Coachella
2012?
Brooks Neilsen:
(Laughing hysterically) It was good.
Scott Montoya: It was
hot.
Neilsen: I felt like
it was the first time that we played like a big stage at a festival.
How was the
sound? Those systems are some of the biggest
in the country, did it feel like that?
Montoya: Not really.
Neilsen: It’s all the
same shit. We got a little overly
nervous and then we got out there, and it’s the same shit. I think the only thing we were thinking about
was how hot it was. It worked out. It’s hard to get people into it when it’s
fuckin’ 115 degrees in the sun.
There wasn’t any
covering on the stage you played?
Montoya: (Shakes his
head no.)
Neilsen: There were
some people misting other people with mister guns, so I think that helped a
little. It was 4:20pm and they were all
stoned. All in all it was good.
And you played both
weekends of Coachella?
Neilsen: Mm-hm.
Montoya: First
weekend wasn’t as hot.
Neilsen: First
weekend was nice. We went in, played,
and went home. Second week we kind of
stuck around for the shenanigans. Scott
had fun.
Montoya: I had a lot
of fun.
You always have fun.
Montoya: I was so hot
I thought I was going to overheat and pass out.
Neilsen: I pretty
much did.
Montoya: I didn’t know
whether to play faster to get it over with, or play slower and conserve my
energy. I was thinking that the whole
time, trying to get to the end. I just
wanted it to be over, it was horrible.
Neilsen: I drank too
much and overheated and fell off of the stage.
You fell off of the
stage?
Neilsen: It was like
10 feet tall.
I’m glad to see you
survived. That’s what the medics and
security are for, right?
Neilsen: Yeah, I fell
on security.
Montoya: Then we went
back to a trailer and met a guy that played saxophone. There was this trailer next to the stage that
was really air-conditioned—it ruled—and met a guy that was emotionally scarred
by ‘Careless Whisper’ on the saxophone for some reason. It was really funny.
You just played FYF
Fest also? Was that a little more
bearable?
Montoya: No, it was
just as fuckin’ stressful.
Neilsen: Well, we got
to do whatever the fuck we wanted there on the stage, and decorate the stage
and do weird shit with projections and whatnot, which was rad. In the end, it looked really cool and great,
but they wouldn’t approve anything that we were doing. It was like, ‘Nah, you can’t do that, no
nipple tassels, no fireworks, none of your own lighting…’
Montoya: No goat.
A goat?
Neilsen: We were
going to bring a goat on stage. We also
faked Warren’s (of The Abigails) death.
Yeah, didn’t OC
Weekly spread it around?
Neilsen: Yeah, I
think they fell for it a little bit. It
was a good, big, tasteless joke.
Montoya: It could
have gone over better…
Neilsen: Fuck you
Scott.
Montoya: It went over
great!
Neilsen: He didn’t
like my delivery, he thought I did it too emotional. I kind of bummed everyone out.
Montoya: It was
really believable.
Neilsen: I’m really
good at that shit. I got them to believe
Warren (Thomas) died.
Montoya: There were a
few people that started crying.
Neilsen: And Warren
was backstage and was supposed to come out and be like, ‘Hey.’ (Laughing) He just, he didn’t come out…
So that inspired the
press release?
Neilsen: Yeah, they
called him like, ‘Are you dead?’ He was
like, ‘No, I just passed out for three days.
Sometimes you get a little tired, and I was a little tuckered.’
Montoya: It was fun.
Neilsen: It was good,
the whole time there was crazy shit.
Montoya: We had a lot
going on and it was a lot to manage, especially when there were people getting
pretty drunk.
Neilsen: It was in
the midst of so many things—moving our fucking warehouse out, and we were about
to hit the road for a tour—so it was a lot of shit.
The Growler lair is
gone?
Montoya: Lease is up.
Neilsen: The
warehouse is gone, everything’s in storage, and we are road-dogs. We’re looking for a warehouse when we get
back.
Will it be local?
Neilsen: Costa Mesa
or Long Beach. I just found some great
spots in Long Beach, so my broker is hitting them up right now so I can go look
at them tomorrow morning before we take off.
It’s going to be bigger, badder, weirder, cleaner.
Cleaner? You say that now…
Neilsen: I threw away
half of that warehouse in the dumpster.
Were you still a
little emotionally attached to that stuff?
I know how you like to hoard...
Neilsen: Yeah, but
I’m finally over it. It felt good to
throw that shit away.
Montoya: Purge.
Neilsen: Baby steps,
‘k. And buying less things on the
road. I’m getting better.
Montoya: Purge.
Let’s talk
tours. You just got back from a tour…how
long were you out and where did you stop?
Neilsen: Almost two
weeks. West Coaster… Yeah we went to Portland, Seattle, Vancouver,
Eugene, Arcata, Humboldt, Chico, San Luis Obispo, San Francisco. Wow, I think that’s everything.
And you’re back on
the road for another tour in two days?
Neilsen: That one is
for three or four weeks. I’ll get back
the 16th or 17th, then we play October 19th
and 20th at Observatory. This
tour’s gonna be really good. This one is
like perfect time of year and they are all spots that we’ve been building. We’ve been touring for a little while now, so
we don’t have to show up to any empty venues anymore.
It just takes time to
develop your crowd, right?
Neilsen: This last
one was great. It was Guantanamo
Baywatch and Cosmonauts, who are great people, who party. This time we jump on with Florida Kilos, a
touring band, likes to drink Tequila and have fun. It’s gonna be great.
You look kinda tired
when you say that…
Neilsen: (Laughs) I
know, when I’m home right now I get to just surf and chill…
And recharge your
batteries?
Montoya: Touring is
tiring.
Neilsen: This tends
to happen in between each tour, just at least three days at home to surf and be
back. You only need to be home for a
short amount of time to get bored, like, ‘Alright, I’m ready to go back on the
road.’
Let’s talk about the
new album, Hung At Heart. You write a ton of music all the time, but
how did you choose for this collection?
Neilsen: I don’t want
to go through all the bullshit, but the album has been somewhat cursed.
Montoya: It’s a nightmare.
Neilsen: It’s been a
fucking nightmare. I mean, it’s too
easy—we wrote the songs, the songs were good, we recorded the songs, should be
over with. But the record didn’t sound
that good, we threw it away, we re-recorded it.
It took forever, shopped it out, people act like they want to do
something, then they give shitty offers, so finally we said, ‘Fuck it,’ and put
it out on Everloving (Records). It was
supposed to come out in October.
You guys started the
recording process with Dan Auerbach?
Neilsen: Started with
Dan.
Too bluesy or what?
Neilsen: You know
what, we went in there with very little time.
We had written the songs rough-draft and didn’t have time to actually
write them into songs. Then we were
touring, we changed drummers…
Montoya: We just got
back from Brazil too.
Neilsen: Just got
back from Brazil, went straight over there, jumped in and recorded 18 songs in
ten days.
Montoya: They weren’t
even done being written.
Neilsen: So we had to
get there in the morning, hung over, write ‘em, record as much as we could
everyday, and then party with Dan at night.
We got home, and the record was taking a long time to be mixed. We originally wanted it to be tape, it
wasn’t.
Montoya: Dan just
came out with an album too, so he was really busy touring around.
Neilsen: He was busy
and we had taken so long that we had been playing the music live. We had changed the songs a bit and they
sounded better and were better written, so we’re like, ‘Fuck this, let’s go
record the record over, on tape, down the street. We have the songs better written, we’ll take
our time and do them right—‘cause it was taking a while anyway—and it came out
better.
You never mention
Mike McHugh?
Montoya: Yeah, Mike
helped. Mike did the recording.
Neilsen: (Laughing).
Montoya: Mike helped
us record.
Has he recorded
everything for you guys through the years?
Neilsen: No, we just
did a 7” with him before that.
Scott, how much of
the catalogue have you recorded?
Montoya: I did the
earlier stuff.
Neilsen: All the
earlier stuff.
Montoya: Up until Gay Thoughts.
Neilsen: This time
we wanted to go into the studio, but since it didn’t work with Dan, we still
wanted to go into a professional studio.
We wanted to do it on tape, so we did it with Mike, and Mike’s the man,
but it was taking a while. But we did
it, we finished it, and the record is supposed to come out November, but they
fucked up on production of the vinyl so we missed deadline, so now it’s going
to be out in January. We already have
everything set up and people jonesing, so for the fans, we’re doing like a
limited tape on Burger Records that’s all the rough-drafts from the record and
some extra songs that haven’t been recorded.
So we’re going to have double, and that’s just more stuff that’s
cool. And the CD and the tape for Hung at Heart will be out in
January. October for the Observatory
shows with Burger are going to have this tape and we’ll do a listening party
for the Hung at Heart album.
What types of songs
are we to expect? Same feel as before?
Neilsen:
(Sarcastically) Nope, we went all dance music—it’s like cross-trance and
I have the sound-effect on my voice like Cher…
It’s a little of the same Growlers.
We kind of picked some happier stuff, and some weirder style songs, kind
of funkier. But it’s got everything,
some reggae-sounding stuff.
Montoya: It’s cleaner
though, the recordings are better, for sure.
Mike’s really good.
Neilsen: Better
vocals, more in front, just more legible, and we’re stoked on it. But, after a month of songs, we wanted to
hear something new and make something new, and it’s been too fucking long. This thing needs to be out there so we can go
make a new record and move the fuck on.
Baby steps… So eventually you’re planning on releasing
cassette, vinyl, CD, and digital versions of the album?
Neilsen: It all got
pushed back. I gotta change it right now
‘cause all these people think we’re releasing all that at the show. We’re still gonna offer a limited cassette tape
with Burger that’s gonna be the demo-songs from and some other unreleased songs
on there. It’s going to be that cassette
tape, but we’re also gonna do, you buy two days, you get to go to the listening
party, you get t-shirts, CDs—all this different shit.
Montoya: A listening
to the new record, not the demos. We’re
having a listening party…
Neilsen: In
January. Yeah it got pushed back. That was going to be the whole deal, but,
what can I do? We thought, at least give
them something, ‘cause I was thinking, fuck, we gotta pull out the record and
bum everyone out. It’s mostly close fans
that are going, so I think they’re going to enjoy the demo songs—our close
friends and my chick do. They like that
shit more.
There’s a character
about demos…
Montoya: It’s way
more raw.
Neilsen: And there’s
imperfections and things that you get attached to. I like when you can hear someone coughing or
something.
That’s how the 7”
felt to me. It wasn’t perfect, but you listen and you get
accustomed and then you love it.
Neilsen: Totally.
So next year you’ve
got an album coming out in January. Will
there be a trip to SXSW or any tours to go along with that?
Neilsen: I don’t know
if we’re gonna do SXSW yet.
Montoya: South By is
exhausting.
Neilsen: We enjoy it,
but I don’t know how much these festivals do for you. I mean, they go and they see you, and it’s
like they’re burned out. If they saw you
for five minutes, they keep it in their head that they saw you, and then you’re
back there in a month and they’re over even showing up. I don’t know, it’s weird. People are all over-stimulated. You see a hundred bands and it’s like,
‘Uhhggg.’ And we do the same thing, we
go and we just party.
Montoya: By the end
we’re fucked.
Neilsen: We might do
it again this year, but we’re definitely going to tour heavy starting in
January. We’ll tour for five or six
weeks, come back for a little bit.
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